On November 16th, 2007 at 11:12 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
So in the event the Illinois football team goes to a bowl game, where will they practice until the Jan. 1 game? Do they use that new practice facility, the 80 yd. $12 million dollar stadium? The Uben Building? Or am I confusing that with the basketball practice stadium? I know the Beifeldt Building was $4 million and that houses the athletic administration offices and the Illini Hall of Fame. The south athletic fields sure have come along way from the cement tennis courts and fenced nets adjacent to the stadium. I can't seem to keep up with all the building going on around Assembly Hall. Is there a Hotel and Convention Center going up next to the round barns, too?
On November 16th, 2007 at 11:17 AM, IlliniPundit said:
Probably the indoor practice facility right next to Memorial Stadium. In another few weeks, the weather will be a problem for outdoor practices anyway.
On November 16th, 2007 at 11:20 AM, Run4cvrlib said:
So all you real sports fans were do you think the Illini is likely to go or is it to early to tell?
On November 16th, 2007 at 11:24 AM, IlliniPundit said:
I think Illinois will go to the Fiesta Bowl, with an outside chance at the Rose Bowl.
On November 16th, 2007 at 11:24 AM, redstatewannabe said:
Orlando or Tampa - the band and alumni offices are thrilled
On November 16th, 2007 at 02:36 PM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
to 10:12 anon,
each team that goes to the Outback or Capital One bowl gets 17 million. That 17 million goes to the Big Ten and it's split to all the schools with some formula. Ohio State and Michigan pick up millions too for the Big Ten.
So quit complaining about the price of buildings, bowl teams earn it back, and a lot more.
On November 16th, 2007 at 03:11 PM, Jay Rosenstein (not verified) said:
>So quit complaining about the price of buildings, bowl teams earn it back, and a lot more.
If they earn it all back, then why does every student have to pay an athletic tax, which allows the athletic department to make millionaires out of Ron Zook, Bruce Weber, and Ron Guenther. Why don't they pay their own way for a change, instead of on the backs of struggling students?
On November 16th, 2007 at 03:40 PM, Oil Man said:
"...why does every student have to pay an athletic tax...?"
On November 16th, 2007 at 04:00 PM, IlliniPundit said:
I think there used to be a student fee for capital improvement to athletic facilities, but I don't see it on that list. It was maybe a decade ago, so it may very well have lapsed.
On November 16th, 2007 at 04:05 PM, purplelady (not verified) said:
"...why does every student have to pay an athletic tax...?"
The Athletic Department is self-financed through ticket sales and donations. Student fees do not pay coaches salaries or for athletic buildings. (Neither do tax dollars). They do pay to support buildings and activities operated through Campus Recreation (Ice Rink, IMPE, etc. and possibly the Assembly Hall - this may have changed) which has no relationship to the Athletic Department, except that they have historically leased office space in the Assembly Hall.
On November 16th, 2007 at 04:06 PM, redstatewannabe said:
Holy Smokes! $2800 in fees. Who needs tuition with fee revenue like that - wow!
On November 16th, 2007 at 04:18 PM, akibare said:
A lot of people were annoyed at the new football practice facility because it meant the end of The Bubble. Ordinary people could play pickup soccer in the bubble, not so with the fancy new practice facility.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:06 PM, Politicalchemy said:
"I think Illinois will go to the Fiesta Bowl, with an outside chance at the Rose Bowl."
I don't see how you get past either Ohio State or Michigan going to the Rose Bowl, but I'm interested. Even if you think OSU could go to another BCS game with an impressive win over Michigan, doesn't that still leave the Rose Bowl to the Wolverines? I think the BCS championship game is off the table.
The Fiesta will almost certainly get the 2nd place finisher in the Big 12 (Kansas, Oklahoma, or Missouri -- I think it's the Jayhawks) against the #2 team from the Pac 10 (probably USC.)
With a win Illinois should go to the Capital One Bowl against SEC #2 (Florida?) or at worst to the Outback Bowl against Tennessee.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:18 PM, IlliniPundit said:
"I don't see how you get past either Ohio State or Michigan going to the Rose Bowl, but I'm interested. Even if you think OSU could go to another BCS game with an impressive win over Michigan, doesn't that still leave the Rose Bowl to the Wolverines? I think the BCS championship game is off the table."
I think OSU will beat Michigan, and that LSU and West Virginia will each lose, moving OSU into the national championship game against the winner of the Big 12.
In that case, Michigan would have only 8 wins, and so would be ineligible for BCS selection, even though they tied with us for second in the Big Ten. The Rose Bowl wouldn't have to take us, but I think they would want to. All of the attrition also means that we'll move up a few spots in the BCS rankings, getting us into the top 14. One other thing - a conference can only send at most two teams to BCS bowls, no matter how many they have in the top 14. So even if the Big 12 has four (OK, MU, KU and TX) and the SEC has three (GA, LSU, FL) and the PAC-10 has three (OR, ASU, USC) each conference can only send two teams, meaning that Illinois is going to bump up for at-large selection.
It's not as improbably as it sounds - LSU has at least two very hard games left, and West Virginia just isn't very good. And Illinois would be an attractive program for a BCS bowl - lots of hungry fans, and we're ending the season with momentum.
But - we gotta beat Northwestern tomorrow, and Ohio State has to beat Michigan, and then we can sit back and watch as everything unfolds beautifully for us.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:22 PM, redstatewannabe said:
that sounds like a pretty big stretch, IP. Heck, I don't even think OSU is going to beat Michigan - I think we will vault past last weeks #1 and get a better bowl than the Buckeyes.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:25 PM, redstatewannabe said:
Another question - I thought these were the BCS bowls:
Jan. 1, 2008 - Sugar Bowl
Jan. 1, 2008 - Rose Bowl
Jan. 2, 2008 - Fiesta Bowl
Jan. 3, 2008 - Orange Bowl
Jan. 8, 2008 - BCS National Championship Game (New Orleans)
Where does this "top 14" thing come in? I'm confused
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:36 PM, IlliniPundit said:
BCS bowls are required to select their at-large teams from BCS conference teams that finish in the top 14 of the final BCS standings. So, we'd need to finish in the top 14 (which looks pretty likely).
If we beat Northwestern and OSU beats Michigan - mark my words, we will end up in a BCS bowl.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:45 PM, redstatewannabe said:
Oh, I see. The BCS is only taking 10 teams, but must choose from the top 14 - got it.
Still, you gotta think top 2 from Big 12 and SEC get a BCS Bowl - that makes 4. OSU would make 5. Winner of Big East, ACC, Pac-10 - 6, 7 and 8. That would have us competing with the #2 ACC, Pac-10 and Big East, and with Hawaii from the WAC - for the final 2 slots.
Well, I guess it could happen.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:51 PM, IlliniPundit said:
"That would have us competing with the #2 ACC, Pac-10 and Big East, and with Hawaii from the WAC - for the final 2 slots. "
The second place teams from the ACC and Big East will not be eligible, and Hawaii is going to lose at least one of their last three, especially now with Colt Brennan hurt.
We gotta beat the Wildcats.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:52 PM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
Ohio State's chances for the title game ended last week. One of the Big 12 teams will play West Virginia. West Virginia's schedule is soft.
On November 16th, 2007 at 05:55 PM, redstatewannabe said:
the ACC has 4 teams in front of us now. They are playing each other, but that guarantees that 2 of them will win this week.
On November 16th, 2007 at 07:28 PM, Run4cvrlib said:
I think these are the fee's you’re looking for. Currently Service Fee $221 and General Fee $237 these fee's are paid by the students and go to the program's they support and are added to money that the programs bring in. The students voted to raise the fee’s they pay to build WIMPY and IMPE so they can have the Facilities they needed for their physical health. There are 46000 students and I really think it was needed. While it's not listed directly the money in fees for defered maintainance something taxpayers should be paying for but students pay for because the governor has decided to short change the University. General Fee: A fee comprised of debt service, facility renewal and replacement funds, campus administrative charges, and general University overhead charges; distributed to auxiliary service units (Assembly Hall, Athletic Facilities, Campus Recreation, Career Center, Counseling Center, Illini Union, McKinley Health Center, and Student Services and Arcade Buildings). Service Fee: A fee composed of categories for salaries, programming, general expenses, and utilities; distributed to auxiliary service units (Assembly Hall, Campus Recreation, Career Center, Illini Union, and Student Services and Arcade Buildings). I would also note that you can see that the “auxiliary units” keep the budgets separate and pay their own way which they're suppose to do by law.
On November 16th, 2007 at 08:17 PM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
Little less than a decade ago there was an athletic fee tax that bailed out the DIA which basically went bankrupt.
On November 16th, 2007 at 11:08 PM, What? (not verified) said:
This is beyond hilarious. Sometimes, people here clearly promote their own agenda using anonymous posts. Like MTD, for instance. Here's an instance where someone is pretending to be a bystander...but he was dumb enough to sign his name to his writings:
On November 17th, 2007 at 08:22 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
So what I'm understanding from the very informative discussion above is that the Division of Intercollegiate Athletics is a privately-owned business enterprise, whose revenue is from ticket sales and donations, separate from the University of Illinois academic institution?
Is the Division of Intercollegiate Athletics at all supported by revenues from the general fund of the U of I?
On November 17th, 2007 at 08:25 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
Where does the bowl money go again? How is it divied up amongst the Big Ten Athletic Departments?
On November 17th, 2007 at 12:21 PM, Run4cvrlib said:
Anon-I don't know that I would say it that way. The state owns the buildings and students pay money into DIA as does state funds pay for benifets of the employees so it may not be that simply but as I said above the way it runs is an auxiliary.
On November 17th, 2007 at 06:39 PM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
"The guy who wrote the letter is the owner of LEX."
Is he related to Jethro Bodine? He can't have more than about a 5th grade education...judging by his writing.
On November 17th, 2007 at 09:20 PM, Dan Fielding said:
LEX recently retracted its "Your 7th ride is on us…" guarantee, yet continues to advertise it.
On November 18th, 2007 at 12:39 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
I walk by LEX fairly often. They have a big neon sign which says $19.95 to Oak Brook and Wood Field. But nothing on their website seems to be $19.95.
On November 19th, 2007 at 06:35 AM, PropertyRights said:
Well this page isn't loading right so I hope my comment doesn't post in the middle of someone else's.
My understanding of post season revenues is that all post season revenues ( all sports) get split 13 ways. Each conference team gets a share, the Big Ten Office gets a share, and the team actually plays the game gets an extra share.
(EDIT) and I think TV contracts work the same way..
I would also remind folks that Gunther only gets $500,000 ( I think).
The coaches "huge" salaries, are set by the market place. We have to pay them enough to keep them from going to another team or the pros. We're not the highest and we're not the lowest. You can be sure that Zook (if the Illini continue to improve) WILL get bigger and better offers.... as will Webber and Law. IMHO Gunther has done a pretty good job of recruiting Top Coaches, even if they (the coaches.....Turner) don't live up to their resumes.. He has kept Illinois on the radar of programs that strive to succeed on a national level, will attract "top recruits", and will pay enough to attract "top quality" coaches.
If the DIA went bankrupt a decade ago...well it isn't so now.. and Gunther had a LOT to do with that!! Give the man a break.
We have to have intercollegiate athletics to remain in the BIG 10. Whether you think so or not, that brings top students to this campus. If we drop out of the Big 10, professors salaries will go down, endowments will go down, our reputation as a "top quality university" would decline.. CUs economy would stagnate...
Why do some of you insist on biting the hand that feeds us all ?! Highschool is in your past, quit hating the jocks already!
On November 19th, 2007 at 09:32 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
The University opf chicago dropped out of the conference decades ago, and it has not turned into a pumpkin.
On November 19th, 2007 at 09:45 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
So what I'm understanding is we have the DIA, an auxiliary business of some kind, where the revenues generated from ticket prices and private donations fund its day to day operation, with extra money coming from large private donations, contracts from television networks for broadcasting rights, and bowl game (and March b-ball tournament) prize monies. It also appears there exists some student fee monies going toward the Assembly Hall. The claim that students pay a fee that goes straight to the DIA has been disputed.
At the same time, the employees that work in the athletic departments get "benefits" from taxpayer money, and all the buildings are owned by the State of Illinois? Is that a correct assessment of the DIA's relationship to the University of Illinois?
Also, the I-Fund and Grants-in-Aid programs are strictly private donations to support academic scholarships for student athletes. Is that right as well?
And is that true, to be "in the Big 10" requires fielding a mandatory football and basketball team? Why does the Board of Trustees have to approve the football coach's salary? He's not considered faculty is he?
On November 19th, 2007 at 10:06 AM, IlliniPundit said:
"It also appears there exists some student fee monies going toward the Assembly Hall."
The DIA doesn't own Assembly Hall, it rents it for games, etc. Since the AH isn't DIA, the students support it with an activities fee, I think.
I think AH is owned by the UI, and Memorial Stadium is owned by DIA. But I'm not sure. And I don't know about the other buildings, like Bielfeldt, Ubben, etc.
As to most of the rest of your questions, I don't really know.
On November 19th, 2007 at 11:54 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:
If the DIA employees salaries do not come from taxpayer money, neither do their benefits. The actual cost a university department pays for an employee is more than just the salary dollars. They also have to pay the university for the benefits. So the salary money and benefits money come from the same fund. If the source of that fund is not tax money then neither the salary nor the benefits are paid from tax money.
Basically, it works like this: DIA has a budget just like any other department. From that budget they must pay all of their operating expenses including salaries, benefits, construction, building operations, heat, electric, communications, vehicles, etc. Some of these expenses are paid to other university departments such as F&S, motor pool, CITES, and the power plant.
The only difference with DIA is the source of these funds, for which I cannot vouch. They may come entirely from self-generated revenues, or thay may recieve a portion of the University's budget pie. I don't know.
If building construction is funded by DIA, ownership of the building belongs to the University. This is because the DIA is part of the university regardless of it's funding source. I don't know if they have to pay "rent" for the buildings they use.
On November 19th, 2007 at 12:03 PM, IlliniPundit said:
I'm pretty sure the DIA pays rent for Assembly Hall events. Other than that, I'm not sure of much of anything when it comes to DIA-UIUC relations.
So in the event the Illinois football team goes to a bowl game, where will they practice until the Jan. 1 game? Do they use that new practice facility, the 80 yd. $12 million dollar stadium? The Uben Building? Or am I confusing that with the basketball practice stadium? I know the Beifeldt Building was $4 million and that houses the athletic administration offices and the Illini Hall of Fame. The south athletic fields sure have come along way from the cement tennis courts and fenced nets adjacent to the stadium. I can't seem to keep up with all the building going on around Assembly Hall. Is there a Hotel and Convention Center going up next to the round barns, too?
Probably the indoor practice facility right next to Memorial Stadium. In another few weeks, the weather will be a problem for outdoor practices anyway.
So all you real sports fans were do you think the Illini is likely to go or is it to early to tell?
I think Illinois will go to the Fiesta Bowl, with an outside chance at the Rose Bowl.
Orlando or Tampa - the band and alumni offices are thrilled
to 10:12 anon,
each team that goes to the Outback or Capital One bowl gets 17 million. That 17 million goes to the Big Ten and it's split to all the schools with some formula. Ohio State and Michigan pick up millions too for the Big Ten.
So quit complaining about the price of buildings, bowl teams earn it back, and a lot more.
>So quit complaining about the price of buildings, bowl teams earn it back, and a lot more.
If they earn it all back, then why does every student have to pay an athletic tax, which allows the athletic department to make millionaires out of Ron Zook, Bruce Weber, and Ron Guenther. Why don't they pay their own way for a change, instead of on the backs of struggling students?
"...why does every student have to pay an athletic tax...?"
Not sure where you are getting your information Jay Rosenstein as I am not see it here: http://www.oar.uiuc.edu/current/financial/ugrad_fees.html
I think there used to be a student fee for capital improvement to athletic facilities, but I don't see it on that list. It was maybe a decade ago, so it may very well have lapsed.
"...why does every student have to pay an athletic tax...?"
The Athletic Department is self-financed through ticket sales and donations. Student fees do not pay coaches salaries or for athletic buildings. (Neither do tax dollars). They do pay to support buildings and activities operated through Campus Recreation (Ice Rink, IMPE, etc. and possibly the Assembly Hall - this may have changed) which has no relationship to the Athletic Department, except that they have historically leased office space in the Assembly Hall.
Holy Smokes! $2800 in fees. Who needs tuition with fee revenue like that - wow!
A lot of people were annoyed at the new football practice facility because it meant the end of The Bubble. Ordinary people could play pickup soccer in the bubble, not so with the fancy new practice facility.
"I think Illinois will go to the Fiesta Bowl, with an outside chance at the Rose Bowl."
I don't see how you get past either Ohio State or Michigan going to the Rose Bowl, but I'm interested. Even if you think OSU could go to another BCS game with an impressive win over Michigan, doesn't that still leave the Rose Bowl to the Wolverines? I think the BCS championship game is off the table.
The Fiesta will almost certainly get the 2nd place finisher in the Big 12 (Kansas, Oklahoma, or Missouri -- I think it's the Jayhawks) against the #2 team from the Pac 10 (probably USC.)
With a win Illinois should go to the Capital One Bowl against SEC #2 (Florida?) or at worst to the Outback Bowl against Tennessee.
"I don't see how you get past either Ohio State or Michigan going to the Rose Bowl, but I'm interested. Even if you think OSU could go to another BCS game with an impressive win over Michigan, doesn't that still leave the Rose Bowl to the Wolverines? I think the BCS championship game is off the table."
I think OSU will beat Michigan, and that LSU and West Virginia will each lose, moving OSU into the national championship game against the winner of the Big 12.
In that case, Michigan would have only 8 wins, and so would be ineligible for BCS selection, even though they tied with us for second in the Big Ten. The Rose Bowl wouldn't have to take us, but I think they would want to. All of the attrition also means that we'll move up a few spots in the BCS rankings, getting us into the top 14. One other thing - a conference can only send at most two teams to BCS bowls, no matter how many they have in the top 14. So even if the Big 12 has four (OK, MU, KU and TX) and the SEC has three (GA, LSU, FL) and the PAC-10 has three (OR, ASU, USC) each conference can only send two teams, meaning that Illinois is going to bump up for at-large selection.
It's not as improbably as it sounds - LSU has at least two very hard games left, and West Virginia just isn't very good. And Illinois would be an attractive program for a BCS bowl - lots of hungry fans, and we're ending the season with momentum.
But - we gotta beat Northwestern tomorrow, and Ohio State has to beat Michigan, and then we can sit back and watch as everything unfolds beautifully for us.
that sounds like a pretty big stretch, IP. Heck, I don't even think OSU is going to beat Michigan - I think we will vault past last weeks #1 and get a better bowl than the Buckeyes.
Another question - I thought these were the BCS bowls:
Jan. 1, 2008 - Sugar Bowl
Jan. 1, 2008 - Rose Bowl
Jan. 2, 2008 - Fiesta Bowl
Jan. 3, 2008 - Orange Bowl
Jan. 8, 2008 - BCS National Championship Game (New Orleans)
Where does this "top 14" thing come in? I'm confused
BCS bowls are required to select their at-large teams from BCS conference teams that finish in the top 14 of the final BCS standings. So, we'd need to finish in the top 14 (which looks pretty likely).
If we beat Northwestern and OSU beats Michigan - mark my words, we will end up in a BCS bowl.
Oh, I see. The BCS is only taking 10 teams, but must choose from the top 14 - got it.
Still, you gotta think top 2 from Big 12 and SEC get a BCS Bowl - that makes 4. OSU would make 5. Winner of Big East, ACC, Pac-10 - 6, 7 and 8. That would have us competing with the #2 ACC, Pac-10 and Big East, and with Hawaii from the WAC - for the final 2 slots.
Well, I guess it could happen.
"That would have us competing with the #2 ACC, Pac-10 and Big East, and with Hawaii from the WAC - for the final 2 slots. "
The second place teams from the ACC and Big East will not be eligible, and Hawaii is going to lose at least one of their last three, especially now with Colt Brennan hurt.
We gotta beat the Wildcats.
Ohio State's chances for the title game ended last week. One of the Big 12 teams will play West Virginia. West Virginia's schedule is soft.
the ACC has 4 teams in front of us now. They are playing each other, but that guarantees that 2 of them will win this week.
I think these are the fee's you’re looking for. Currently Service Fee $221 and General Fee $237 these fee's are paid by the students and go to the program's they support and are added to money that the programs bring in. The students voted to raise the fee’s they pay to build WIMPY and IMPE so they can have the Facilities they needed for their physical health. There are 46000 students and I really think it was needed. While it's not listed directly the money in fees for defered maintainance something taxpayers should be paying for but students pay for because the governor has decided to short change the University.
General Fee: A fee comprised of debt service, facility renewal and replacement funds, campus administrative charges, and general University overhead charges; distributed to auxiliary service units (Assembly Hall, Athletic Facilities, Campus Recreation, Career Center, Counseling Center, Illini Union, McKinley Health Center, and Student Services and Arcade Buildings).
Service Fee: A fee composed of categories for salaries, programming, general expenses, and utilities; distributed to auxiliary service units (Assembly Hall, Campus Recreation, Career Center, Illini Union, and Student Services and Arcade Buildings).
I would also note that you can see that the “auxiliary units” keep the budgets separate and pay their own way which they're suppose to do by law.
Little less than a decade ago there was an athletic fee tax that bailed out the DIA which basically went bankrupt.
This is beyond hilarious. Sometimes, people here clearly promote their own agenda using anonymous posts. Like MTD, for instance. Here's an instance where someone is pretending to be a bystander...but he was dumb enough to sign his name to his writings:
www.news-gazette.com/news/opinions/letters/2007/11/16/why_no_seat_belt__in_commercial_buses
The guy who wrote the letter is the owner of LEX.
WTF?
So what I'm understanding from the very informative discussion above is that the Division of Intercollegiate Athletics is a privately-owned business enterprise, whose revenue is from ticket sales and donations, separate from the University of Illinois academic institution?
Is the Division of Intercollegiate Athletics at all supported by revenues from the general fund of the U of I?
Where does the bowl money go again? How is it divied up amongst the Big Ten Athletic Departments?
Anon-I don't know that I would say it that way. The state owns the buildings and students pay money into DIA as does state funds pay for benifets of the employees so it may not be that simply but as I said above the way it runs is an auxiliary.
"The guy who wrote the letter is the owner of LEX."
Is he related to Jethro Bodine? He can't have more than about a 5th grade education...judging by his writing.
LEX recently retracted its "Your 7th ride is on us…" guarantee, yet continues to advertise it.
I walk by LEX fairly often. They have a big neon sign which says $19.95 to Oak Brook and Wood Field. But nothing on their website seems to be $19.95.
Well this page isn't loading right so I hope my comment doesn't post in the middle of someone else's.
My understanding of post season revenues is that all post season revenues ( all sports) get split 13 ways. Each conference team gets a share, the Big Ten Office gets a share, and the team actually plays the game gets an extra share.
(EDIT) and I think TV contracts work the same way..
I would also remind folks that Gunther only gets $500,000 ( I think).
The coaches "huge" salaries, are set by the market place. We have to pay them enough to keep them from going to another team or the pros. We're not the highest and we're not the lowest. You can be sure that Zook (if the Illini continue to improve) WILL get bigger and better offers.... as will Webber and Law. IMHO Gunther has done a pretty good job of recruiting Top Coaches, even if they (the coaches.....Turner) don't live up to their resumes.. He has kept Illinois on the radar of programs that strive to succeed on a national level, will attract "top recruits", and will pay enough to attract "top quality" coaches.
If the DIA went bankrupt a decade ago...well it isn't so now.. and Gunther had a LOT to do with that!! Give the man a break.
We have to have intercollegiate athletics to remain in the BIG 10. Whether you think so or not, that brings top students to this campus. If we drop out of the Big 10, professors salaries will go down, endowments will go down, our reputation as a "top quality university" would decline.. CUs economy would stagnate...
Why do some of you insist on biting the hand that feeds us all ?! Highschool is in your past, quit hating the jocks already!
The University opf chicago dropped out of the conference decades ago, and it has not turned into a pumpkin.
So what I'm understanding is we have the DIA, an auxiliary business of some kind, where the revenues generated from ticket prices and private donations fund its day to day operation, with extra money coming from large private donations, contracts from television networks for broadcasting rights, and bowl game (and March b-ball tournament) prize monies. It also appears there exists some student fee monies going toward the Assembly Hall. The claim that students pay a fee that goes straight to the DIA has been disputed.
At the same time, the employees that work in the athletic departments get "benefits" from taxpayer money, and all the buildings are owned by the State of Illinois? Is that a correct assessment of the DIA's relationship to the University of Illinois?
Also, the I-Fund and Grants-in-Aid programs are strictly private donations to support academic scholarships for student athletes. Is that right as well?
And is that true, to be "in the Big 10" requires fielding a mandatory football and basketball team? Why does the Board of Trustees have to approve the football coach's salary? He's not considered faculty is he?
"It also appears there exists some student fee monies going toward the Assembly Hall."
The DIA doesn't own Assembly Hall, it rents it for games, etc. Since the AH isn't DIA, the students support it with an activities fee, I think.
I think AH is owned by the UI, and Memorial Stadium is owned by DIA. But I'm not sure. And I don't know about the other buildings, like Bielfeldt, Ubben, etc.
As to most of the rest of your questions, I don't really know.
If the DIA employees salaries do not come from taxpayer money, neither do their benefits. The actual cost a university department pays for an employee is more than just the salary dollars. They also have to pay the university for the benefits. So the salary money and benefits money come from the same fund. If the source of that fund is not tax money then neither the salary nor the benefits are paid from tax money.
Basically, it works like this: DIA has a budget just like any other department. From that budget they must pay all of their operating expenses including salaries, benefits, construction, building operations, heat, electric, communications, vehicles, etc. Some of these expenses are paid to other university departments such as F&S, motor pool, CITES, and the power plant.
The only difference with DIA is the source of these funds, for which I cannot vouch. They may come entirely from self-generated revenues, or thay may recieve a portion of the University's budget pie. I don't know.
If building construction is funded by DIA, ownership of the building belongs to the University. This is because the DIA is part of the university regardless of it's funding source. I don't know if they have to pay "rent" for the buildings they use.
I'm pretty sure the DIA pays rent for Assembly Hall events. Other than that, I'm not sure of much of anything when it comes to DIA-UIUC relations.